Jennifer Levin
Hi everyone and welcome to Untethered: Healing the pain from a sudden death. I am Dr. Jennifer Levin, and I specialize in traumatic death and helping individuals through the struggles, pain, trauma, and chaos of an unexpected death.
In my last podcast, I interviewed Joy and Richard Abiador, whose 18 year-old daughter, Syra, died by suicide approximately three years ago. In today’s interview, I have the opportunity to talk with Syra’s sister’s, Leia and Teya. Today they share their memories of the night Syra died and how they coped with their grief early on after their sister’s death. We also talk about what it was like for them to return to school, talk with their friends and peers and receive support from their schools. Finally, we explore how Syra’s suicide has changed their family, how they honor Syra, and some of the things that have been the most healing in their grief experience.
Hi, Leia and Teya, I am so glad that you are here today. So why don't you start off and introduce yourselves?
Leia Abiador
Hi, I'm Leia. I'm 23 years old. And about a year ago, I graduated from a university in California. And I majored in English Literature. I took a gap year, was intending to get my master's in education, but I don't think I'll go back to school. So this past year, I've been a one on one para educator in the school district nearby. And now I'm job hunting, but for interests I love reading, writing, listening to podcasts, as you know, and then, yeah, that's kind of it. It's summertime. So I've been out at the lake with a bunch of friends, which has been a lot of fun. But yeah, pretty easy going.
Jennifer Levin
So a para educator, just like your mom.
Leia Abiador
Yes, yes, definitely. And I don't know how she does it. I did my year and I'm out to say the least.
Teya Abiador
Hi, I'm Teya. I'm 18 years old. I am currently a freshman at Edmonds Community College. I am working on my pre nursing degree. And I am currently working at the YMCA as a camp counselor. And I also graduated high school last year at Lynnwood High School. And some things I like to do is I like to dance, but not like anything specific, like hip hop or like ballet. Instead, I like learning K-pop dances, and I really like, I enjoy listening to K-pop music as well. And that's really fun.
Jennifer Levin
I'm behind the times, because I don't even know what that is. So you'll have to tell me some other time.
Teya Abiador
Yes, I will.
Jennifer Levin
So, this is actually the first time that I've had two siblings on my podcast, and my previous episode was with your mom and dad. And they share the story of how your sister Syra died by suicide. But for the listeners who didn't hear that episode, would you mind sharing what happened that night. And this also gives us a chance to hear things from your perspective. And I believe Teya, you were the one that was with your parents that night.
Teya Abiador
We left the house at 6pm that day, and we left because my parents and Aunties were going to go to the casino and then I was going to stay by because they had some kids of their own and I was just going to babysit them while they went out. So we left at six and then we got a text around 7pm while we were driving, and there was Leia and Syra, bantering about the names to call dumplings, wontons or gyoza. And my mom even added in to the conversation as well. And then soon, we leave that house that we were staying at 11pm and got home at around midnight. And the first thing I wanted to do was immediately go up to Syra because there was a video of one of the kids doing a K-POP Dance and I really wanted to show it to her. So my parents went downstairs, and I went upstairs to go look for her. I'm like Syra, oh my gosh. And so I went upstairs, and I went to her room, of course, first. She wasn't there, but I saw that her room was clean. But I didn't think much of it. So like I looked around and I saw the master bedroom light, so I go over there and I'm still calling for Syra she's not answering. So I look into the living room like Syra. And then I looked at the bathroom and I saw the bathroom light was on. And I was Like, Oh, maybe she's in there, right? So I go up to the door I knock. I'm like, Syra are you there? And no answer, but I could hear music from the room I could hear music. So I was like, okay, she has to be in there, right? And then I knock, nothing and then I turn the knob, and the knob was open. I was like, that's weird. And so I opened the door and there she was, and then panic became chaos after that. I didn't cry immediately, I was just really in shock and in denial. I've recently at that time, I was watching like these pranks that people do to each other and there are like the extreme bad ones. And I was like, maybe this is one of them. Like maybe this isn't this isn't real this is this like a prank like, she's alive, whatever. But yeah, that's that's how it was. My dad came up first. And then my mom came up after him. That's how I remember it.
Jennifer Levin
Was this your first experience seeing somebody who had died?
Teya Abiador
Yes, this this was.
Jennifer Levin
Yeah, yeah. Leia when did you get notified about what happened?
Leia Abiador
So to match up with Teya's timeline pretty well. It was around midnight, I was actually in California. And my mom, a couple days before had helped me move into a house that I was going to share with four other girls. And I was the first to move in. So I'm alone in the house like decorating my room or something. And it's around, again around midnight. And I get a call at midnight from Teya. And I pick up the phone and I'm like Teya what's up. And Teya says, she's dead. She's dead. And then hangs up the phone. And so after she hung up, I was immediately like, okay, I'm calling back I called her back, I called my parents panicking, because I don't know what that means. I called my older brother Alon, called Syra. And nobody was answering me at the time of. And so I'm just internally panicking and I called my friend and he lives like five minutes away. And I was like, I'm alone in this house. Like, I need somebody to be with me right now because I don't know what is going on. And he comes over. And it's maybe like 20 to 30 minutes, we're headed towards his apartment in the car, my mom calls me back to give me the news officially that Syra was gone. Like 30 minutes later, after Teya had called me.
Jennifer Levin
Yeah. But you weren't alone at the time?
Leia Abiador
Yeah, I yeah, I was I made sure. Immediately, like after Teya had called that I like, couldn't be alone, especially not knowing what was going on.
Jennifer Levin
That was good self care. Yeah. What do you both remember about that very early stage of what we call traumatic grief?
Teya Abiador
I remember, I think I was more focused on my PTSD for the first three, couple months. I remember going to grief therapy immediately and helping, she was more of a grief therapist. But also, later, we did some PTSD therapy. And she helped me break down some things to help me cope with the images that I saw. And even, and I remember during that time, as well, I stayed with my parents, I slept in my parents room for a whole month, I was in a separate bed for a whole month before I went back to my old room, and I couldn't go in that bathroom for a whole two months, kind of until I could go back in that bathroom again, because like every time I like wnt in the bathroom, I immediately started feeling the trauma. So that's what I remember. At the time,
Jennifer Levin
Were you having flashbacks and things like that in terms of the trauma?
Teya Abiador
Yes, I definitely was. And weirdly, it wasn't like her. It was like the building up to it. So like, I remember being alone one week. I think my parents were out, one not one week, one night, they were out one night, and I was home alone and I was extremely scared because when I was, when I found her I was also alone on that level. So it was kind of scary as well. Trauma is very weird, but thats what it is.
Jennifer Levin
What do you remember Leia about, so Teya really dealt with a trauma being the one who found her sister, what do you remember about the early stages?
Leia Abiador
To be totally honest, I don't really remember much. Like since yeah, I, I think like my brain was so scrambled, disoriented. I mean, the next morning after I had received the news, I was on a flight back home immediately. And I remember like, just in the beginning, like I had my noise cancelling headphones, and I do not remember my surroundings or anything that was happening, especially that same week that I got home and then we had the celebration of life, her memorial service. And I, I read her eulogy. And I do not to this day, remember what was inside the eulogy, or what I had written, because there was just a lot of shock. I was disoriented. And then it was only a week after her memorial service I went back to California. And in the next couple of weeks started school. So again, in the beginning, I was, I think mom just wanted me to get some sense of normalcy. Go back. Especially go back to school and just be in a in a different environment. But it's important now that like I'm acknowledging, oh, no, there's no really normal going back after after losing her so I think in the first beginning months I can't even recall what was happening because I was just too busy operating like on idle, operating on autopilot. Like just trying to keep on going.
Jennifer Levin
Tell me a little bit about your relationship with your sister, both of you.
Leia Abiador
Syra and I are middle children. So it's Alon, me, Syra and then Teya. All of our pictures we were looking at baby albums this past weekend. And we were always playmates always matching clothes. Teya wasn't born at the time. So yeah, she was left out a lot of our pictures because we transitioned to digital at the time when Teya was born, but she was always my playmate we are 18 months apart. So we're super close, we played volleyball together, we just, we just did things with each other. And the four of us have always been close since we were children. Like I remember, some of my earliest memories with like the four of us in a little line helping mom pack groceries. And the cashier would always be like, your kids are so cute. And we're helping her and she's like, that's why I had them to help me with my groceries and to help me, but with Syra, oh gosh, she was just, she made us so complete. Like, just her being her whether it's like, you know, scrunchies on her wrists or her smiling she journaled all the time. So we'd have like journal sessions together, Teya included, but again, it was kind of, you know, our own thing is journaling and she would complain about my journal, etc, etc. Just we were, we were all so close. So...
Teya Abiador
Um, so Syra and I were roommates almost all the time. And it wasn't until like a year before Leia left for college, that we actually split rooms and have their own individual rooms. So we were together all the time. And that caused a lot of me being her study buddy, I had to do all the flashcards with her. We, I'd have to listen to her presentations all the time. And she took sign language so I had to watch her learn sign language and present to me with her sign language and then she'd also teach me some sign language as well. And that was really fun. She was also my DD my designated driver because during my freshman and sophomore year, she drove me the school. And that was fun as well because I ended up listening to all of her new music at the time. And she was really into Hamilton when it came out. So all I listened to was Hamilton on the car ride and I'm like, do you have anything else you want to listen to? And she's like, no Teya, this is good. You like, you got to watch Hamilton. And we actually even ended up watching Hamilton when it came out on Disney Plus. She also bought me drinks. So on her journal she has this calendar, and she has her spending calendar, and so each color when like, oh, this was important, this wasn't important to buy, etc. And so she's like Teya I'm buying you a drink to make sure that it's important on my spending calendar. So it looks good on my spending calendar. That's only why I'm buying drinks. I'm like, okay, well, I'm just like thinking, Oh, free drinks. That's good, you know? So it was, it was just she was just my best friend. We just did so much stuff together because we were she was in the next room. She was next door and we also slept in the same room. So yeah, super close as well.
Jennifer Levin
That sounds pretty amazing to have such wonderful relationships. What was it like to realize that she made a decision to end her life?
Leia Abiador
It was so like, it just blindsided us. Like I think that none of us saw it coming. I mean, of course like in the aftermath like you can pick up on things but it's always in the aftermath, right? But at the time it was the unimaginable and still to this day is like unimaginable even though it has happened and it's very real that we lost her but it was so unexpected, so unreal. I can't even gosh, hand me a thesaurus for all of the things that I can describe it right? There was nothing she was so, she always had everything like set, always right. Like if we procrastinated on something me Alon and Teya, Syra always had it done. Like she was she was on it and the best of us. So to have, you know, her decision to end her life. We did it. Again, it didn't see it coming.
Teya Abiador
Yeah. Really shocking. Super shocking. Yeah, none of us saw the signs because, you know, we just we didn't think about, it's not something that we took note of at the time, just because we're all so close as well. Because we're so close we you know, we think we know each other so well. But I guess in that part of mental health, it's just something that we didn't know at the time. And yeah, that's why it was extremely shocking. And we didn't even get a note as well. And just that it looks like it just happened. It was hard.
Jennifer Levin
How did her death change your family?
Teya Abiador
So I always, I saw this quote that said loss as close as this one can either make or break a family. And for us, it definitely made our family a lot closer, we're definitely more open with each other, especially in mental health. There are times when mom and dad will come to the door and say goodnight, or, oh, how are you doing today? And not saying that they didn't do it before, but it's just more frequent now that she passed away as well. As siblings as well, we got a lot closer, I realized my brother was looking into K-Pop to connect with me more and that was really fun. And even during our group chat, they'd send videos for us to watch and be like, oh, this was a really good video. And sometimes I'd like shrug it off. But nowadays, I actually look at those videos as a way to talk to them as well. So we're just very considerate with each other. We're open and more vulnerable. And that's, that's something that we didn't have before. And it really connected us together because we lost someone so close to us that no one else would understand except us as a family.
Leia Abiador
Yeah, I totally agree. I think that in terms of conversation, there's a lot more openness and like Teya said, vulnerability, and these are conversations that you know, before losing Syra we would have never had and whether that is just about you know, checking in, how you're doing? versus Oh, how are you really doing today? Are you struggling? Are you missing Syra those are things that are said without hesitation now in terms of us as, as a family, so yes, definitely we've, we've grown closer in that aspect.
Jennifer Levin
What about you as sisters?
Teya Abiador
We've definitely gotten closer as well. We are kind of like each other's therapists. So Sunday night drives, and then Leia, we'll meet and we start talking about her, and then we just have a whole conversation, then we'd even drive a lot further so that we could talk more, even in the parking lot, we just park and talk even more. And that's it's been really great to have her along with, with me during this journey, and definitely wouldn't be anywhere without her. And she's really strong and is very wise as well.
Leia Abiador
Ah thanks. We have a five, five year age difference? No four. She's turning 19 In July, so I was like, oh, but we have a four year age difference. So I think it's also different now that we're a little bit older too, having conversations talking about Syra and other, you know, more sensitive topics. We've grown closer, and we're also we're also roommates, because during my gap year when I was working at the elementary, yeah, we were roommates. And that was a little bit of whiplash for me from going four years, you know, in college and being on my own in California. But again, itjust only made us grow closer and, and just as close with our older brother too, like, it's, we're not, for three of us, we're not going anywhere anytime soon, we'll be with each other. So, yeah.
Jennifer Levin
That is so wonderful to hear. I mean, I don't really like the I mean, it's hard to say the word silver linings in something like this. But you know, there are times when there are positive things as a result of a trauma. And of course, we give anything not to have this trauma happen and to have Syra back. But if something really positive does come out of it. It's nice to acknowledge it. Yeah, so what have you noticed about how your parents grieved, or how their relationship changed as a result of your sister's death?
Teya Abiador
So for me, since I was the one home, I definitely saw a lot. I was definitely there with my parents and saw a good amount. So the good thing is they always are together, like as a result of Syra's passing. They are together, they now watch TV shows and movies before they sleep. And they are always trying to be on the same wavelength when watching a TV show like, Oh, you did that episode, I'm gonna watch this episode, etc. They did the suicide prevention together, they did the Support 7 group with companioning with people that have lost someone together. They're just together. Inseparable, yeah. But also as a negative though, they, in the beginning, three months after Syra passed away, our grandpa passed away as well and my dad left to go to Guam to help with my grandma that was there. And during that time, that separation made them kind of fall apart a little bit. They saw some flaws in their marriage, especially my mom was thinking about the marriage at the time. And that was really difficult for them. But like I said, that is a result of Syra's passing and there are good and some bad things. And us kids, and as older, actually older adults, you know, we're there to support them, but also we see when it is happening, and we talk about it as well, what they're doing together and what they're doing apart. So, yeah, definitely.
Leia Abiador
Yeah. Um, things about our parents that I guess are different or changed in the way they grieve, I'll go individually. For our dad, he's, he's a lot gentler now. Like, so much more gentle and not that he wasn't in the past. But I think in regards specifically to approaching topics like mental health, suicide, etc. There is a certain openness about him that wasn't there before losing Syra. That is a huge change. It's the way he talks. It's the way that he approaches conversation. It's just different. It's different. And we feel more open to him too because of that, because he's taken some time to relearn different things and things that, you know, we weren't brought up with, but maybe that he was. And that's, that's been a huge change in his grieving process and as for our mother, she's always been gentle. She's always been empathetic. But she just lets herself cry. I think that's something that I've taken away personally, is that she just whatever, you know, emotion she's experiencing, she just lets it. And so that has been something at least for my grieving process. I've been like, oh, wow, maybe I need to, I need to model a little something after her for that. But they've also gone back to therapy, or they did therapy in the beginning stages and continue to have healthy coping mechanisms, which I'm like, again, they are models for us.
Jennifer Levin
They're like amazing role models. There's really no guidebook for this, many people have written them, but everybody still has to find their own way.
Leia Abiador
Absolutely, yes.
Jennifer Levin
So I know you were both in school, different schools when your sister died, what was it like when you went back to school? Did you share what happened with friends professors?
Leia Abiador
For me, because I went back to out of state, friends knew. All of my friends knew. It wasn't, it wasn't a secret. Because Syra's Celebration of Life memorial service was posted on our social media. So we had friends tuning in from out of state, you know, friends flying into attend, which we are very grateful for them, but going back to school, there was, my professors knew, and early on, my mom was like, You should probably contact them, and let them know, hey, you know, you just lost your sister. And they were receptive, supportive, I wouldn't have finished school without them and their accommodations. But as for friends, there wasn't necessarily, I would say, a stigma or resistance to the way Syra died, specifically, by suicide. But I think just a lack of knowing how to approach me, and how to start a conversation because I think internally I was like, just ask, just ask me how I'm doing. But not the general. How are you? I'm not doing, I'm not doing so hot. But like, just ask me how I'm how I'm feeling. And I think that a lot of my my friends who are more familiar here in Washington. My senior year of high school, we lost two boys from sudden death my senior year of high school. So my friends here are a little bit more familiar with grief, and just talking, discussing death and grief. But for my friends in California, again, they didn't really know how to broach the subject. And I didn't really know how to bring it up. So we were at a standstill. And obviously, with time, that's changed significantly. I'm way more open with them. But at the time, I was like, I don't know, I can't talk about this, because I felt really isolated that I didn't have anybody to talk about it with.
Teya Abiador
For me, it's two separate things. So I went to Running Start and what Running Start is going to college classes, and getting high school and college credit. And so for me, I did part time Running Start so I had two high school and then two college classes. And so college side, it was hard because this was my first time in Running Start as a junior, and I didn't know what's going on. And so it hit me when I realized I wasn't turning in assignments on time and wasn't doing them like I usually did. When I went to my mom I was crying to her and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm missing assignments and I don't know why. And she's like, You have to email your professors and that was like the first time I've emailed a professor about my loss and they were really supportive. But on the high school side everyone knew because of volleyball and so I didn't really have to you know talk about it or mention it to anyone people just already knew and I think people avoided it as well, because they didn't want to bring up anything bad or I think people didn't want to bring up, you know, the possibility of bad memories or, you know, there's always a question like, I don't know if they want to talk about it as a person asking another one that lost a person to suicide. So there's back and forth. And because of also the pandemic, it was really isolating and lonely, because I didn't have my roommate. And then we were all online, like all online. And that was, yeah, it was difficult.
Jennifer Levin
What are some of the ways your family has honored or remembered your sister?
Leia Abiador
Some ways, or the ways that our family has honored her, my dad specifically is every summer, now going on three summers, he always plants sunflowers and...
Jennifer Levin
He talked about that.
Leia Abiador
It's his pride and joy. And also my mother so they do it together, they plant some flowers. And gosh, they're always so beautiful when they bloom. But Syra's favorite, again, favorite flowers are Sunflowers. So that's something that they do to honor her. As for us, we all got a tattoo out of her journal, because she used to draw all the time again, her journal had all these spreads, which are beautiful, like, you know, we were looking through them and so all of us took a image out of her drawings and got it tattooed. I have a tulip. Alon has a koifish, dad has a sunflower Polaroid, mom has Monstera and then Teya has a cherry blossom branch with the Spirited Away Studio Ghibli character on it. So that's another way that we honor her. And we always honor her in our own, you know, individual ways. Like for me, I have a playlist that's full of music that she would have liked. Or that I think she would have liked. So and it's called like fonts that you would enjoy not even songs fonts specifically, because whenever we would go to the movies and stuff she would when like the title card shows up in the beginning of the movie she would either turn to us and be like, That is such a nice font that fits exactly. Or that is the ugliest font I've ever seen in my life. So either or, but it's all music that like she would have enjoyed, like the Olivia Rodrigo Sour album. A bunch of other things. We we've always seen Mac Ayres, another artist, her favorite artist. We've seen him in concert twice now. And he just came out with a new album. So yeah, definitely a way to honor her for sure.
Teya Abiador
Yeah, another way our family honors her, so something, if you don't know, Syra took an environmental science class in high school, and like changed her way she sees the world. And so as a result of that, she would talk to us about what she learned in class. And then she also watched documentaries about fashion about food. And she became pescatarian, which is only eating fish and vegetables. And then soon after became vegetarian. So when she passed, we have a jar of metal and glass straws, and we now compost and recycle as well. And then another way is we always eat her favorite food on her birthday, which is lasagna. She loves lasagna. What do you make Leia?
Leia Abiador
I make like vegan chocolate cupcakes. They're actually really delicious. I'm allergic to dairy. So I don't know if there's like a comparison between like dairy cupcakes, obviously they're very different but I'll make the chocolate cupcakes that Syra really likes on her birthday.
Jennifer Levin
Lovely. That's cute.
Teya Abiador
And on her anniversary of her passing we'd always visit her as a whole family. And even last year she turned 21 she would have been 21 last year. So we all drank shots except for me. We all drank shots at her grave and even our uncle came along and did one with us and that was really nice. I don't do a lot to honor her but I always whenever I see alo hello and alo hello is you see a sunflower just randomly and you think of her and it's maybe in an inconvenient or convenient way to know that oh, she's she's saying hi to us in Heaven, she's saying that she's okay. And so all the time I see those signs and I'm like, oh, that Syra telling me that she's doing good. And that she's, she's with God. So, yeah,
Jennifer Levin
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Um, what helped you most in your grief and moving you towards healing?
Leia Abiador
Um I guess people always say this, but time. Now that it's been almost three years. The grief is still palpable. But it's, it's tolerable. I mean, again, three years in the beginning, it was like, I don't know if I can make this like make it through this. This is not. This is not what I have planned for my life. This is not what I planned for Syra. This is not. But of course, plans change. But time has definitely been on my side. And then also exercise, in the beginning stages specifically around the neighborhood that I lived in at the university, I would always go for a walk every day. And it would range from like a walk to like, six miles, it didn't matter. I was just out and my body was telling me you need to, you need to get something out. And therefore like, maybe, maybe go for a walk clear my head a lot. Journaling. Journaling definitely has helped with the grief, and just having conversation with people that you love, who also love Syra. And even if they didn't know her, like knowing that they love you and are here to support you, those conversations are really important in the beginning, and still are.
Teya Abiador
Therapy has helped me a lot, we definitely would not be anywhere without therapy, it taught me how to deal with the guilt or the regret that I experienced. And it helped me understand it and cope with it. And that helped. And they broke it down for me to where I can understand it as well. And like Leya said, having someone to talk to about it was really helpful, because it's kind of a way off your chest when someone carries that burden with you. And surrounding myself with good people. And being with family has always been very helpful as well. So yeah,
Jennifer Levin
That's great. So the final question that I ask everybody is, what advice would you give to other young people like yourselves who are, you know, having a sibling who's just died by suicide? And are just getting started? What would you tell them right now?
Teya Abiador
I was thinking about this question, and I just went with just take care of yourself, please take care of yourself. It's gonna be hard. And there's, like Leia said, you don't plan for it at all and the journey is going to have a ton of obstacles in it. So with that, just take care of yourself, do things that you love, do self care, go out and honor them as well when you go out and be kind to yourself, please be kind to yourself, because you are really going through a hard time and what you are feeling is valid, it really is valid. And yeah.
Leia Abiador
As for me, I mean, there's no shortcuts. There's no tips or tricks to shorten your grief timeline, if that is something on your mind. This is something that we have to, you know, grieve with for the rest of our lives. And just know that, you know, me, Teya and just our family, we love you. Whoever you know who has lost a sibling, this person was so important to you. Whatever your relationship was, whether it was complicated or straightforward, it doesn't matter they were a part of you and a part of your life and a part of all the dreams you had for the two of you. And that is something that is is very important and very hard to even reconcile or think about. So like Teya said, take care of yourself, give yourself all the grace in the world. Like, during university or even these past couple of years, it's, it's been a, could have done more could I have, etc, what if's, what if's always go through our minds, but let yourself feel whatever emotion is like going through your body. And don't resist it. It's okay. It's okay to feel a certain way about somebody that you love and again somebody that was important to you and who you are. Yeah, give yourself grace, as a little bit of a tangent, but most importantly, yeah, give yourself grace. And know that even though we don't know you, we're thinking about you. Yeah, absolutely.
Jennifer Levin
Ladies, this is so wonderful and beautiful and heartfelt, I can tell from both of you. It has been such a pleasure to have this conversation with you. And you have no idea how much what you had to say today is going to help other young people who just are lost after, you know, experiencing the death of another sibling. And just don't know where to go and where to start. So I can't thank you enough.
Teya Abiador
Thank you for having us.
Leia Abiador
Thank you.
Jennifer Levin
Thank you for being here. It was a pleasure.
When someone decides to end their life by suicide, their decision impacts and devastates the lives of so many other people. The pain of grief that accompanies a suicide changes an individual, but it destabilizes and forever alters the family unit where the suicide occurred. Some families are destroyed and never recover after one of their members decides to end their life. Other families, such as the Abiador family, engage in the painstaking, continual process of confronting their grief, restabilizing, and growing stronger.
Today Leia and Teya shared their stories and experiences after their sister’s suicide. Teya, who first discovered her sister when their family came home from the evening, shared a bit about her trauma response and some of the post-traumatic stress symptoms she experienced. Leia and Teya both confirmed that they were also blindsighted by their sister’s decision to end their life, and Teya even remarked “we thought we knew each other so well.” The sisters shared that exercise, therapy, journaling, talking about their feelings and surrounding themselves with friends were beneficial coping mechanisms in their early grief experiences.
Leia and Teya were both in school when their sister died. Listening to them describe their experiences returning to school after her death highlights how much help our society and culture needs in order to better support one another when we are grieving. There is so much discomfort – whether we are in school, in the workplace, or in society at large, when it comes to talking about death and especially suicide. We just don’t know what to say, what to ask, or how to just be when someone is grieving. Unfortunately, so many people choose not to say anything at all or keep their distance from someone in the midst of grief. Of course, there are exceptions, many of them, and there are wonderful people and organizations that know how to provide support, emotional comfort, and presence during grief and suicide. But many times, it means you, as the griever, need to ask for what you need during the time when you feel most vulnerable. Leia and Teya shared how they did eventually receive support and accommodations from their school and instructors but they had to reach out. In my experience, schools will be very accommodating but you need to let them know about your circumstances. This is especially applicable for someone going to college or who is grieving in a large community where everyone is not aware of your circumstances.
In my interviews with the Abiador family, we were fortunate to get the perspective of both Richard and Joy, Syra’s parents and Leia and Teya, Syra’s sisters. Although Syra’s brother did not participate, we saw her parents and sister’s agree and expand upon how their family has changed and grown stronger after Syra’s death. The family all shared how they are able to communicate at a deeper level, show their vulnerabilities, and be present with one another in new ways. I also found it interesting to hear Richard and Joy’s daughter’s comment on how grief has changed them as parents and as people.
The Abiador family is committed to honoring Syra together as a family unit and in their individual, meaningful ways to stay connected to her and to help with their healing. I know many of you have already seen the pictures in our facebook group of Syra’s sunflower garden. I was introduced to this family and have had the pleasure to get to know Richard, Joy, Leia and Teya through our mutual volunteers efforts with the grief companioning project in South Snohomish County in Washington State. The Abiador family has participated in the training program to be companions and lead groups to provide supportive guidance to others who have also suffered the sudden or violent death of a loved one. I know their willingness to talk about their experiences and support others has made a huge impact on the lives of many living with similar grief and pain. The family has also shared that their volunteer work has been a valuable part of their healing process as well.
We cannot survive, cope, or begin the lifelong process of healing from the death of a loved one from suicide by ourselves. Families need love, support, and patience with one another during their grief and the individuals within the family system need their own set of resources and guidance to cope. Schools, workplaces, and society at large still struggle with how to best support grievers, especially grief from suicide. To borrow from a well-known phrase – it takes more than a village. After a suicide, it is so important to take the time you need to process the overwhelming feelings and emotions that accompany the death of your loved one. Take care of yourself, express your feelings, and seek out those who can and will understand your pain. There are people and resources who know how to listen and be, if you seek them out.
Thank you so much to Leia and Teya for sharing today. It was so important to hear your voices and how your sister’s death impacted you in addition to your parents. It was such a gift, to have two interviews from the same family. Suicide impacts the entire family. I am so grateful to the entire Abiador family for allowing their story to be public and their desire to prevent suicide. As September and suicide prevention month draws to a close, our efforts to prevent suicide do not and will not end. Please, be familiar with the risk factors associated with suicide and remember that suicide can and does occur even when someone does not appear to have any risk factors or display any signs of distress.
If you or someone you love is feeling suicidal or in need of crisis support - text or call Lifeline 24/7 at 988 to speak with a counselor. You can also visit the American foundation for suicide prevention website afsp.org
. Thank you so much for joining today’s episode of Untethered Healing the Pain After a Sudden Death. Our podcast will be dark in the month of October and our next podcast interview will be on Wednesday, November 15th and will feature Meghan Riordan Jarvis, a traumatic grief therapist who shares her personal and professional experiences in sudden and unexpected grief.
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