Jennifer Levin
Hi everyone and welcome to Untethered: Healing the pain from a sudden death. I am Dr. Jennifer Levin, and I specialize in traumatic death and helping individuals through the struggles, pain, trauma, and chaos of an unexpected death.
In today’s podcast, I interview Joy and Richard Abiador, whose 18 year-old daughter, Syra, died by suicide approximately two years ago.
Suicide is currently the 11th leading cause of death in the United States. In 2021 there was an average of 132 suicide deaths per day and 48,123 total deaths. The highest rate of suicides are by middle age white men but suicide rates among young adults are increasing and suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death among young adults ages 15-24. According to the national alliance on mental illness almost 20% of high school students have seriously contemplated suicide.
According to Dr. Carl Fleisher who specializes in adolescent and child psychiatry, young people are vulnerable to suicide because of where they stand socially and developmentally. Developmentally, their pre-frontal cortex is not fully formed making them more impulsive and unable to weigh risks and consequences in the same manner as adults. Dr. Fleisher also states they are not as socially connected in society because they have not had a chance to engage in committed relationships, have children or establish themselves compared to older generations.
Today Richard and Joy share with us how Syra’s suicide has impacted their family, differences in how they grieve, and how they have learned to live with so many unanswered questions. They also talk about their decision to be public with family and friends regarding Syra’s decision to end her life and how they have coped with their traumatic grief. Before we start I want to mention that in my next podcast, I will be joined by Richard and Joy’s others daughter Leia and Teya who will continue today’s conversation from their perspective.
Well welcome, Richard and Joy. And thank you so much for being here today. So can you start off and take a few minutes and introduce yourself?
Richard Abiador
Hi, I'm Richard Abiador, and I'm 50 years old. And Joy is 48 and we've been married for 25 years and we have four children. Now three with the passing of our daughter Syra. Alon is our son, he's the oldest he's 26, Leia is 23 and Teya is 18. If Syra were alive today, she would be 21 years old.
Joy Abiador
So I am Joy. I'm Richard's wife. I am a para educator at a nearby middle school and I help students with learning disabilities. Some of the things I like to do is gardening, reading, travel and spending some time with my family.
Richard Abiador
And for me, I work in for Boeing in compliance and certification. My hobbies are spending time with my family whether it's watching movies, we hike, play golf, just hanging out. Otherwise, personally, I like to exercise, I weight train, I hike, I like to walk and do sunflower gardening.
Jennifer Levin
Sunflower gardening. That sounds fun. Well, I am so grateful that you are here today to share your story. In fact, the next two episodes are going to focus on how your daughter's death by suicide impacted your entire family. And today we're going to talk about your grief experiences as her parents. And in my next episode, I will have a chance to talk with your daughters about their grief. And I just want to acknowledge that it takes a lot of courage to share your family's story. And I really want to thank you in advance and let you both know that in doing so you're bringing a lot of comfort and healing to so many others that are walking similar paths. So when you're ready, start us off by telling us what happened the night that your daughter died.
Richard Abiador
Well, it was a Friday night, September 4, 2020, to be exact. Our son, he's the oldest, he was up north somewhere in the San Juan Islands, somewhere remote, but camping for the weekend. Our second oldest Leia she was at school in Riverside, California. And so in the house, it's me, Joy, Syra, she's our third oldest, Teya and then Joy's mom lives with us as well. And so that night we were going to go have dinner with friends, hang out at the casino. Just a nice outing. Nothing out of the ordinary. Teya was to hang out with our friends kids at their house. And this was down south in the Federal Way area. We had invited Syra to come out with us earlier in the week and then again the same day, right before we left. However, both times she declined saying she was gonna stay home and take care of grandma. And grandma lives like I said with us and she suffers from Alzheimer's disease which is a challenge in and of itself. But the three of us, Joy, Teya and I, we we had left about 5pm. And again, like I said checking in with Syra if she wanted to come still and she said, No I'll just take care of grandma. I'll stay home. Otherwise it was a typical weekend night just going out. Mind you on many occasions, Syra goes out with us. But you know what? She's 18 going on 19 And she wanted to stay home so that was perfectly fine. So we were out while at the casino and I remember like 7:30 Joy, Leya, our oldest girl, and Syra had a brief text exchange and again, nothing out of the ordinary. And so we thought everything's just fine. And so we enjoyed the rest of the evening. We left the casino at about 11pm and picked up Teya and then headed back home. Got home about close to midnight. And when we came home, everything seemed normal. Opened the door. Teya went upstairs quickly and she wanted to share with Syra the fun things she did with the other kids that night. Joy was putting some leftover food in the fridge. She was putting that away in the kitchen. And I was just kind of close to the stairway probably taking off my shoes. And then, then I heard Teya upstairs and the most concerned voice calling out Syra's name repeatedly. And it was a different tone. And so I ran upstairs I knew something was wrong. And I ran upstairs, ran to our master bedroom where where we sleep and then our our master bath and Teya was there looking at Syra and Syra was lying in our master bathtub. She wasn't moving. So that's how we found her. Want to add to that Joy?
Joy Abiador
Yeah, when we found her I was still in shock. I went outside and I called 911 right away. And then I kept on telling Richard, can you just check for a pulse and see if you know, maybe she's breathing, you know? But she wasn't, and then 911 came.
Jennifer Levin
I'm so sorry. So this was completely unexpected?
Richard Abiador
Yes, it was very unexpected. who Syra was she's very intelligent, very smart. She's very kind hearted, hardworking young woman. She was actually enrolled to the University of Washington. She was going to attend the University of Washington in a couple of weeks. You know, she wasn't diagnosed with any mental illness. She just seemed perfectly normal. You know, she, she grew up like any child, you know, playing with their siblings playing with neighbors going to school, she had friends, talks to people. She's athletic. She's been playing volleyball since she was six or seven. And she grew up with love and care that was the best that Joy and I could provide. I mean, she was she was smart. She practically had a 4.0 GPA. She played volleyball, all four years in high school, two years in varsity. So a very productive. person, you know, she was she was just courteous and considerate. And, and again, this was completely unexpected.
Joy Abiador
Like Richard mentioned, she didn't have a diagnosis of depression or anxiety, but in hindsight, and this was during the pandemic, she didn't want to get out of the house. She wanted to stay in her bedroom. And then she started arguing with me about outings. Like I even asked her if she wanted to get a pedicure. And she didn't want to do that. Or we wanted to take a trip on the weekend. And she didn't want to do that. She also didn't want to do her chores. So, you know, I wasn't sure if this was because of COVID or she was just being an 18 year old.
Jennifer Levin
So hard to tell. And the reason I asked about you know being so unexpected is because many times a suicide will be sudden, but not so unexpected. When you first saw Syra and you realized it was a suicide. What went through each of your minds?
Richard Abiador
Well. It's utter horror and shock when you find your child lying there, and there's blood. And it's just shock. Shock. So like Joy said, we called 911. I tried to check for a pulse. I did, no pulse.
The whole time it's just chaotic. I'm thinking, what happened? Did someone just break in the house and hurt her? Or was this in fact a suicide? Just trying to process everything. Is somebody in the house, you know, get help for Syra, maybe she's still alive.
Then I gotta check on Joy and Teya. But a lot of what I remember was just chaos, shock, pain and fear and just helplessness.
Joy Abiador
And you just never, you never ever want to see your child in pain or suffering, you know. And to see her lifeless was just excruciating, you know. I was unable to help her. It was devastating.
Jennifer Levin
How public were you that your daughter died by suicide?
Joy Abiador
So, um, we had her celebration of life eight days after her passing. And Richard and I decided that during her celebration of life, at church, we were going to mention that she died by suicide, because we, we knew that there were a lot of people out there who were isolated, and they probably had, you know, they were suffering. So we wanted to put it out there that they're not alone. And you know, that there were resources available if they're feeling lonely. So right away, we made it public. There were a lot of teenagers at church, there's just a lot of people at church who went to her celebration of life. And I was consumed with so much grief that, you know, I didn't feel the stigma or any stigma, my oldest daughter's friend died by suicide her senior year, and my boss died by suicide a couple years prior to this. So I kind of knew about suicide, and I was more focused on preventing it. Didn't want any parent or anybody else to feel the way we felt losing Syra.
Jennifer Levin
Wow. So you had some experience with this before? I mean, obviously, can't even compare it to your own daughter. Yeah. And you just kind of mentioned stigma and that survivors of suicide often talk about experiencing stigma or shame. Have you encountered this at all?
Richard Abiador
You know, I have to, you know, not, not really I have to think that possibly the social media and the news, the way they push better mental health, suicide prevention, those kinds of things, I think, lately, especially after COVID. Maybe even during COVID, which is when Syra died was you know, there's more awareness for folks you know, Mental Health Awareness Month Suicide Prevention Month. So most of the folks were very supportive. Outpouring of love and support is what we got when it happened and yeah, like Joy said, you know, we didn't want to hide it you know, honestly, I didn't care if folks thought oh, what's wrong with that family? Why did the daughter kill herself? You know, that that goes through my mind personally, but you know, we did the best we could raising her up and we thought everything was normal and something underlying was deeper within her that that I guess that night she just got really low and did that You know, here's some things to that. But I'm not going to share that in this podcast.
Jennifer Levin
Of course. How is your, or let me ask what were some of the ways you grieved together and differently in your marriage? I mean, everyone grieves differently. There's different gender styles. I mean, so as a couple, what's that been like for you?
Richard Abiador
Well, everybody, everybody's different. So everybody grieves in their own manner. I tend to internalize, you know, struggling to internalize. And so I guess Syra was like that, you know, everything's fine type of thing.
And together, we visit Syra's grave from time to time. One way to help with our healing is, Syra used to grow some flowers in the corner of the house. And, just a few, five or six, and so we took that spot, and we built a sunflower garden to honor her and her memory, we've expanded it more and you know, we till it and we plant seedlings together. And you know, there's like 50 sunflowers now. Well, currently, now that we've been doing that every summer for the past two years, and so right now we have about 50 or so growing in that spot.
Joy Abiador
And I think for me, I outwardly cry, and I don't hold it back. And we cry at different times. But when we're crying and grieving, like when he's crying and grieving, I know, just to be present, and vice versa. He doesn't say anything to try to fix me. Or, you know, he just, he's quiet. It's like this silence, silent presence when we're crying at different times,
Richard Abiador
You know, as her husband, I try to, I want to, when she says, I feel sad as well so, you know, I, I'll either give her space and step out, or I'll just be right there and just don't have to say anything. And if she wants to talk, she can talk. And like she said, most of the time, I'm, I'm quiet, and I'm just crying. And I'm not really a talker. So everybody grieves differently,
Jennifer Levin
They do. Yeah, I do appreciate you talking today. We have a Facebook group. And if you're comfortable, perhaps you can share some pictures of your sunflower garden, we'd love to post it. So no idea what that process looks like. But 50 sunflowers together must be absolutely stunning.
Joy Abiador
And it's pretty.
Richard Abiador
Oh, every every September, I post a whole bunch of pictures on my Instagram and Facebook.
Jennifer Levin
Oh, great. Yes, we'd love to share some of those in our Facebook group. So I'm curious. How has your family coped as a whole after Syra's death?
Joy Abiador
Initially, when Syra passed, it was me Teya and Richard that had a family grief therapist. And we did that for a few sessions. And then we knew that we needed to get individual therapists as well. So we each have our own grief therapist as well to cope. My daughter who was in California, she had a counselor that she spoke with as well. My son was just so immersed in school. He didn't see a therapist or counselor, but we did check on him often to make sure he's okay.
Richard Abiador
Yeah, for me, personally, I went to therapy for about a year and then I didn't for another year and I find myself having to go back So currently I'm in therapy about every three weeks. There's there's a post traumatic stress disorder, PTSD aspect to all of that, especially in the manner we found her and so that's the kind of stuff that you don't unsee, you know, when you go through that they're you know, just reflecting again, how when we first saw her there, and then that first couple of weeks, it was just pure, pure anguish, just soul wrenching, crushing anguish, just the deepest pain that you could you could feel like, at times I didn't even want to be alive myself. It was just, it hurt so bad. But yeah, here we are.
Jennifer Levin
Yeah, that is truly the experience of traumatic grief. It really is. How has your relationship changed with your other children after this experience?
Joy Abiador
Relationship-wise, I've always been really close with my children, all four of them. Maybe this time around with Syra being gone. I was always checking up on them. Making sure they're okay. You know, with my son who was immersed in college, he didn't want a therapist. But once in a while I would offer it, you know, we can help you if you really want to see a counselor. And he seemed to be okay with that, without seeing a counselor. So I'm still being there for them, being available to them.
Richard Abiador
Yeah, when you when you have a huge loss like this, you know, most families, I can only speak for our family. But the change is we're even closer, because, you know, we do more check ins more and how are you doing? What are you up to? And we try to do things together that can be difficult, especially with adult children, but we try to do things together. And honestly, call it negative or whatever, right or wrong, but you kind of think, oh, I lost one child, I don't want to lose any more. Right? So you, you hug harder, you love harder, you listen better, you just try to do everything better as a parent?
Jennifer Levin
Absolutely. What has it been like to reflect on your relationship with Syra and the expectations and hopes you've had for her now that she's no longer living?
Richard Abiador
Well, you know, they say the deepest pain you can feel as a parent is losing a child. And I totally get that because, you know, to die young, she died when she was 18, she was almost 19. And receiving all the love we could give her, all the teaching, you know, you feed your kid, you clothe your kids, you work hard to make sure they have a safe home. And then parents expect their children to be good, you know, to do good things. To be respectful and kind. Then maybe one day, have a good job or business, make good money, buy your own house. Have a boyfriend or girlfriend, maybe find a spouse, get married. Maybe you have a family. All of that was gone in one night. Right? So you have all these expectations. Like it's your future, you know, you think you think about your future to say you you don't think about it that's not true. Every parent thinks about it. You know? All of that was gone in one night. It's not easy, for folks listening to this podcast and having to think that, oh, they'll get over it they have other kids. Time will heal. You know, whatever have you, that's not easy. It's tough. But people that knew Syra, you know, she was an amazing person, daughter, sister and friend. She was going to do great things on this earth and be successful in whatever she did. But her death has left a huge hole in many people's lives. And that hole will always be there for me and me personally, and I have to live with it.
Joy Abiador
I'm kind of different than Richard um, whereas I have this real close relationship with Syra where we both had similarities in gardening, we love plants, we love Harry Potter and Studio Ghibli, she's the one I would go to when I wanted to try a new dessert. It was me and her. So the grieving for me, I don't really know if it's the expectations that I was grieving, but more of that I miss her. And I missed having to do all these things with her. So I, it was more for me missing that Mother-Daughter bond. You know, those moments with her.
Jennifer Levin
Yeah. And future opportunities with her.
When we spoke prior to our interview, you mentioned that Syra did not leave a note. How did that impact your grief?
Joy Abiador
So the night we found her, I was hitting the walls and saying why? I even asked the police officer, why did she do this? I just kept on asking why. So that night, I even went to her extremely organized clean room and try to find anything, any note, anything from her journal. I looked in her phone, my cousin and I hacked your computer, so we can find out you know, why? Why did she do this? And it just made the grief harder? Because there's just so many unanswered questions. And I think without knowing why she did this. I know for me, it was just really difficult for me, but I'm at the point where I know I may never know why. And, and that's okay for me. What about you, Richard?
Richard Abiador
You know, for humans, we always want to know why and the reasons, so to have no note definitely did make it difficult. And and I don't you know, there's no way to measure it, but maybe maybe just lengthens the grieving process, but it's definitely hard.
Jennifer Levin
Yeah. Just a little bit of information, although it's really hard to measure. Current estimates indicate that anywhere from three to 42% of people actually leave a note when they make a decision to end their life. So most people really don't. But, you know, speaking to that, the point you just made about like unanswered questions. In addition to grief and pain, suicide leaves so many unanswered questions, and there's so many unique aspects about suicide. And I'm curious, besides the reason of why, what other unanswered questions have you learned, or have you had to learn to live with?
Richard Abiador
Well, I've had lots of whys, it was that's the biggest question right there. You know, why, why our family? Why our kid you know, especially when I see other families, they look like they're flourishing, their kid just graduated their kids going to college. They're alive and healthy. You know? And here I am, like Syra is gone, you know. So, two things that have helped me understand why was the day that she died. I was like I said, it was chaotic. But after about an hour, you know, we had like 10 or 12 EMTs and officers in our house and I just ended up being outside in the front of the house and there was an officer there. Oh, yeah, we were waiting for the Medical Examiner to arrive. And I don't know that I guess that officer, he felt a tug and he actually said something because most of the time, they're quiet. Because they're, I guess they're still investigating and so forth. But anyway, he said, You know, I, I'm sorry for your loss and this may not make sense to you. But in my family, I had a suicide. And when two things I'll tell you is, number one, people are complicated. And number two, don't go that down that bunny path of blaming yourself. So that officer helped me. And I still remember that day. And then the second thing that kind of maybe helps me with why is my doctor friend in California called me to try to help me out. I returned his call, and he explained how people that commit suicide, they're sick. And the way he explained it is think about when some kind of harm is coming at you. And let's say, let's say somebody's trying to punch you or attack you, or a car is coming right at you. Your natural reaction is defense. So you're going to protect yourself, get out of the way of the punch, or the attack or jump out of the car's way. But you know, with suicide, that's self harm. And to actually hurt yourself, you're sick, and there's something wrong with your brain. Obviously, there could be, there are multiple triggers and causes that could make you feel wanting to perform self harm, but there's something going on there where you're not your normal self, so you're sick. So to me, that's always helped me. And the problem is that I have to live with is why didn't I know she was sick?
Jennifer Levin
Joy what are your thoughts on that?
Joy Abiador
I agree completely with what he said. Why did she do this? Why did she want to hurt her family? And also question of was our love not strong enough that, you know, she just didn't want to be here.
Richard Abiador
And I don't think she wanted to hurt our family. You're just saying...
Joy Abiador
I know, just yeah.
Richard Abiador
She didn't know that part.
Joy Abiador
No, I'm sure.
Jennifer Levin
And are there some ways that you have come up with or narratives that you've developed for yourself to help you answer those questions?
Joy Abiador
I have already accepted that I won't know anymore. Well, I know I won't know why she did what she did. And when I do see her again, one day, you know, I don't want to ask her. I kind of just want to give her a big hug and tell her I love her.
Jennifer Levin
Sounds like that will be a beautiful reunion.
Joy Abiador
I agree.
Jennifer Levin
Oh, go ahead, Richard.
Richard Abiador
No, my narratives were just answering those questions why. You know, the officer that helped me and then my doctor friend that called me. That kind of helps me.
Jennifer Levin
Yeah. And everybody creates their own narratives that work for them. So two more questions for you. And now two years, little after two years. How would you describe your grief now from you know, those moments of shock and disbelief and chaos? What's it like now?
Joy Abiador
Richard mentioned the saying, "time will heal all wounds" and I used to believe that but like he said, you know, there will always be a hole in my heart. And I just have to accept that wound and move forward with it. And I try to fill my days honoring her. Like the garden. Syra was also an environmentalist, you know, she believed in recycling and composting. So, you know, we do that to honor her. And also, we are a part of Support 7, it's an organization that companions those who have traumatic loss, so we are also trying to help others as well.
Jennifer Levin
Are you able to experience joy or moments of happiness?
Richard Abiador
Yeah, I mean life, life goes on, you know, we have, we have three children, we have our marriage, you know, we're alive and otherwise healthy. Yeah, we're going through grief and losing our daughter. But you gotta you gotta keep going, you just got to keep going.
Joy Abiador
And I always ask myself, like, when I'm in this depressed mode, and I'm grieving and crying, I always ask myself would Syra want me to be doing this? And I know, I know for sure, she would be like, No, Mom, you need to go water my plans right now. You know, I know that I just need to move forward.
Richard Abiador
Yeah, if anybody listening to podcast that has lost a loved one, I mean, definitely, when you lose them, it's really intense. But as time goes by, it does get less intense. But that doesn't mean it goes away. Because it's always there. You just try to figure out how you can live with your loss and deal with your grief. You know, I still cry from time to time. And that, you know, that's okay. Just keep trying to do better and live your life.
Jennifer Levin
Actually, that transitions us to our final question. What advice would you give to other parents who have just found this podcast and are brand new, and have experienced the death of a child by suicide?
Richard Abiador
Obviously, you provided this question in advance, so I thought real hard about it. I do have some advice based on experience and what others have told me. You know, number one, a friend of mine who lost her one year old baby to illness, she told me be comfortable with your tears and let them come. And so I find that advice, that advice helped with my healing continues to help with my healing as humans we are designed to heal and crying is a part of that. Number two is be patient with yourself and have grace for yourself. Because personally, as a father, it's my job to make sure my family is healthy and safe. And so I you know, I have a lot of deep guilt and regret that this happened. But you know, I'm only a human being. And so that's where I have to have grace for myself. Number three, although it may be hard for some people, but try to eat and sleep. Grieving is very taxing on the body. And if you if you don't eat and sleep, there can be negative effects on your body and your mind and it could get worse. It might even exacerbate some negative health issues you may or existing have, or you may develop if you don't eat and sleep. And then lastly, number four, my friend who lost her baby years ago, she told me be patient and kind to each other. And she was talking to me about me and joy. Because, you know, there have been times during these two and a half years where it definitely stressed our marriage and patience with each other. You know, we're human beings and we're grieving and going through a lot and so you got to be patient and kind to each other. You know, if you don't have anything good to say, sometimes just don't say it because that could be damaging. So be kind and patient with each other.
Joy Abiador
So I agree with Richard too where he mentioned to not hold back your tears. When you're grieving and you want to cry, just cry. It's okay to cry. Also, take good care of yourself. And I know in the beginning, you know, you say, what do you what do you mean take care of yourself when, when your daughter just passed away, I ended up in the ER twice for severe panic attacks and extremely high blood pressure. And then I realized, oh my gosh, it just hit me, I need to take care of myself. I need to do self care, whether it's walking for 30 minutes, or, you know, sitting quietly and meditating. I, I've been doing that now. So it's been very helpful to focus on me and take care of me. So definitely take care of yourself. And the crux of grief is love. And just know in your heart, that you know, you're grieving because you'd lost someone that you truly love.
Jennifer Levin
That's wonderful words of advice. I love that last question. I ask it in all my podcasts, because, you know, you're at a space now where you can reflect back and just give heartfelt words of wisdom. So, Richard and Joy, I can't thank you enough for sharing everything you did today. And I again, I just know, people who are walking similar journies and, you know, are not as far out as you and of course, there's no timeline here. But I'm really going to benefit from what you've shared. So, thank you so much again.
Joy Abiador
Thank you for having us. Dr. Levin.
Richard Abiador
Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you Dr. Levin.
Jennifer Levin
I started today’s podcast by sharing statistics and information about suicide, describing who is at highest risk for suicide, and the increase in the number of suicides among teenagers and young adults. However, the interview you just listened to was not about a number and it was not a statistic. Richard and Joy Abaidor shared the very real and intimate traumatic grief they experienced and continue to live with approximately 3 years after their daughter Syra decided to end her life by suicide.
For some people, a death by suicide is sudden but not always unexpected, especially if there have been previous suicide attempts, a family history of suicide, or other strong suicide risk factors. As we heard Richard and Joy painfully share, Syra’s death was completely unexpected and the night they came home was filled with chaos, shock and feelings of helplessness when they found their daughter.
As Richard and Joy shared, trying to understand their daughter’s decision has been difficult. Joy mentioned her struggles, looking for a note from her daughter, anything that would help her comprehend “the why”, but came up with nothing. She did state that she has now come to a place where she has accepted that she will never know or understand Syra’s decision. Richard, on the other hand, spoke with people he trusted for guidance and advice and developed a narrative that provided him with answers he could live with.
As an aside, I can only imagine how difficult it must have to be a parent to young adults during the pandemic and to try and navigate and tease out normal developmental changes associated with being a teenager in today’s world and the challenges that young people faced quarantine and homeschool.
Throughout the interview the couple shared with us, differences in how they grieve but support one another. Although Richard and Joy are just one example, their interview provides an example of how men and women grieve differently and how partners grieve both separately and together within a marital unit or committed relationship. Research has shown that men tend to be more task or action oriented in their grief whereas women are more emotional or intuitive or feeling oriented in their grieving style.
Finally, as a clinician and as a human, I want to acknowledge Richard and Joy’s decision and courage to be public about Syra’s suicide at her funeral, by participating in today’s podcast, and for all of their volunteer grief work in service of others. Richard and Joy do not want others to feel isolated, alone, without resources and they do not want anyone else to experience the suicide death of someone they love. Some, but not all suicides, are preventable and suicide survivors need support.
I cannot thank Joy and Richard enough for their vulnerability and their entire family’s commitment to suicide prevention. September is National Suicide Prevention Month and throughout the month, mental health advocates, prevention organizations, survivors, allies, and community members unite to promote suicide prevention awareness. For more information please visit the website for American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.
If you or someone you love is feeling suicidal or in need of crisis support - text or call Lifeline 24/7 at 988 to speak with a counselor
Although today’s podcast focused on the pain associated with Syra’s suicide, Richard and Joy also shared their continued loved for Syra today. They continue to express this love by spending time with their family and sharing stories, honoring Syra’s dedication to the environment and tending to the sunflower garden. Syra will remain forever alive and part of their family. Thank you so much for joining today’s episode of Untethered Healing the Pain After a Sudden Death. My next podcast will be on September 27th and will be a follow up to today’s interview when I interview Richard and Joy's other daughters, Leia and Teya to learn about their experiences after Syra's suicide.
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